Unwanted Charges on Your Local Phone Bill?
Find Them, Eliminate Them & Get Your Money Back!
Find Them, Eliminate Them & Get Your Money Back!
Overview - If your business still gets its phone service through the old "Ma Bell" local phone company (as opposed to one of the newer competitive phone providers) then you need to double check your phone bill each and every month for charges you did not authorize. You may not know it but the local phone company allows other companies to bill you through your local phone bill. And while the local phone company allows other businesses to bill you through your local phone bill, the local phone company does not verify that the charges being billed to you by the other company are valid. When these unauthorized charges fraudulently appear on your phone bill it's called "cramming". Unfortunately you as the business owner or manager are the only one that can spot the unauthorized charges and if you don't comb over your bill every month to spot these unauthorized charges - you'll pay for them.
Why does the local phone company allow other companies to pass charges onto your phone bill? "Third-party billing" is supposedly a great convenience in that you only have to pay one bill instead of separate bills for obvious authorized phone related charges like yellow-page advertising in the "real yellow pages", 411 information calls and long-distance calls from your chosen long distance carrier. Over the years though, some less-than-scrupulous companies have realized that most businesses rarely scrutinize their local phone bills. To take advantage of this, these companies have come up with elaborate schemes to place unauthorized charges on your phone bill that you'll end up paying for without even thinking. Unauthorized charges you can end up paying for include charges for unwanted (and unused) email accounts, web sites, directory information calls, directory advertising in obscure publications, voice mail accounts and other services.
In theory, before these charges can be placed on your phone bill, the company that is originating the third-party billed charges is supposed to have a verification of the order like a voice recording. In reality though, all the company needs to do to initiate the charge is submit your name and phone number to the billing entity. The verifications are only required to be produced if a complaint is filed.
To prevent these charges from appearing on you business phone bill it's helpful to understand the four parties that make unauthorized third party phone charges a costly reality. Party number one is any employee who can answer your business phones. The unauthorized charge is rarely random and it usually happens after one of your company employees gets a telemarketing call. Employees should be instructed to document and report any overly aggressive telemarketing calls they receive. Party number two is the telemarketing company that originates the unauthorized charges by trying to get your employee to accept some service for which you'll be billed through your local phone bill. Party number three is the third-party billing company that has billing agreements with your local phone company. The name of the third-party billing is the one that is prominently displayed on your phone bill. After the third-party billing company's name is the name of the company that is originating the unwanted charges. Party number four is your "Ma Bell" local phone company that collects the unwanted charges (keeps a share for "Ma") and then passes the rest to the third-party billing company (who keeps a big share) and then passes the balance on to the company that initiated the unwanted charge.
Following are some of the top third-party billing names and unauthorized charge originators you'll find on your phone bill. If you see these names on your phone bill you'll want to call the toll free number listed next to the charge to confirm it's a charge that's been properly authorized to be placed on your bill. Following are actual examples that we've recently found while auditing business phone bills.
Important note: Third-party billing companies like the ones listed below simply bill you for the products of others. As such, it's not the third-party billing company that initiated the charge you did not authorize - they simply pass on the charge from the initiating company to your phone bill.
Top 5 Unwanted Charges
1. VOICE MAIL - Enhance Services Billing Inc. (ESBI), VoiceXpress & CoolSavings.com
We found a $12.95 per month charge on a client's local AT&T phone bill for non-AT&T "VoiceXpress" voice mail service. When we called the listed phone number for VoiceXpress of 800-367-8006 we spoke to a VoiceXpress customer service rep who said a specific person "ordered" the voicemail service almost 15 months ago. When I asked that he give me detailed information about what kind of voicemail service was ordered he quickly stated that the voicemail service was ordered through the website www.CoolSavings.com. He stated that when people go to that website to download free grocery coupons that some of the fine print states that they will be charged $12.95 per month for the voicemail. Before I could even begin to take issue with the whole situation he said that I would be refunded all the money - at total of $194.25 on the phone bill within the next bill or so.
I was actually kind of surprised that they were so anxious to refund all our money without a fight until I started Googling ESBI, VoiceXpress & CoolSavings.com. I quickly found that my client was not the first to end up being billed for a service they did not want. Click the following links for more information Complaint Site 1 Complaint Page 2 Complaint Page 3 Complaint Page 4 Complaint Page 5 ESBI Lawsuit ESBI Lawsuit 2
2. DIRECTORY ASSISTANCE - ILD Teleservices, "10 15 15 800", Calling10.com & TelSeven.com
We found ILD billed our client $21.42 for three separate "directory information calls to the phone number 10-15-15-800. Unlike with ESBI above, ILD was a little stingier before finally relenting to a credit. They were quite insistent that an employee did indeed dial 10-15-15-800 for directory assistance at a cost of over $5 per call. I quickly challenged them by asking, "Who in the world even knows to dial 10-15-15-800 for directly information unless they were mislead to do so?". The customer service person I complained to issued a one time $21.42 "courtesy credit" and said a check will be mailed out right away. Surprisingly, the check arrived just a few days later.
Click one of the following links to read Internet posts from others about unauthorized 10-15-15-800 directory assistance calls. Complaint Page 1 Complaint Page 2 Complaint Page 3 Complaint Page 4 Call10 WebSite TelSeven WebSite
Unfortunately, unless you are able to block your phone system from dialing 10-15-15-800 or other 101xxxxx "bypass codes", t hese unauthorized charges can be very difficult to stamp out. While an employee my indeed be tricked into dialing the number as is alleged on some of the web links above, it's likely that an employee is dialing these numbers out of ignorance or malice. Tell them that if they want free directory assistance to dial 800-GOOG-411 or 800-FREE-411.
3. INTERNET DIRECTORY LISTING - OAN Services, Inc., USdirectory.com, & Xacti
We found $49.95 per month being charged for a non-AT&T online yellow page listings at www.USdirectory.com. When we contacted the customer service number for US Directory we were assured that someone at the business did indeed place the order. The business disputes that the charge was authorized. US Directory said a credit of $149.85 for three months of the charges would be issued.
Click the following links to view information about others who feel they did not authorize what was charged or to get additional background information about US Directory. Complaint Page 1 Complaint Page 2 Complaint Page 3 Complaint Page 4 USdirectory.com Xacti Robert Osterlund
The only way to stop this sort of unauthorized billing would be to contact your local phone company and ask them what your options are to block all third-party billing. You may or may not want to pursue this option depending on how many authorized third-party billing vendors you are already paying through your phone bill. Many of these vendors (like the real yellow pages) will only do business with you if you allow them to bill you through your phone bill.
4. DIAL AROUND - USBI & MCI
We found a total of $84.31 billed by USBI on behalf of for MCI long distance calls. When we called the listed customer service number the rep assured me that either the line was PICed to MCI or that someone was using an MCI dial-around code to make the calls. I assured the representative that the line in questions was confirmed to be PICd to Sprint and that no employee needed to dial any long distance bypass code on the line because the line had a working long distance carrier. After a couple minutes the representative granted the "one-time courtesy credit".
Like the "10 15 15 800" directory assistance dial around problem noted above, other than blocking your whole system from being able to connect dial around attempted calls there is not a good way to block these sort of calls.
5. UNAUTHORIZED PHONE LINE - Sprint
We found about $35 worth of long distance charges for a phone number that no one seemed to think belonged to the company. In going back through many back bills it seemed the number had been added to the companies Sprint long distance phone bill over a year and a half ago. We called Sprint to ask them who added the phone number to the account and why. Sprint responded that their records didn't go back that far. We then stated that we wanted to initiate a fraud investigation. Sprint issues a credit of $304.80 for all the billing on the phone line since it was added to the account. They also blocked the phone line from the Sprint network. I called the line in question and it was some residential phone customer who had no relation to my client.
The obvious way to stop this sort or unauthorized phone line problem is to check the list of all phone numbers billing to the account every month to make sure every number is authorized to be billing on the account.
5 Ways to Eliminate & Prevent Unwanted Charges
1. Switch to a Competitive Local Phone Company - Only "Ma Bell", the old local phone company allows other companies to add charges to your phone bill. If you switch your local phone lines to one of the new competitive local phone companies, the only charges that will ever appear on your local phone bill are the charges you have authorized in a signed contract. How refreshing!
2. Have a "Phone Cop" Review Every Bill Every Month - Designate an inside employee or an outside consultant with the responsibility of knowing what phone services you're subscribed to and why. Then have that person scrutinize every phone bill every month to ensure that only contracted prices are being charges to authorized services. Have them report and track all discrepancies. Have them keep detailed records of all promised refunds so it can be confirmed when the refunds have been received. Have them Google the customer service contact phone number of any company that unexpectedly places charges on your phone bill. You may quickly find that the company has many Internet complaints published against it.
3. Have a Phone Service Inventory & Expansion Plan - Every year the local phone company sends their customers a "customer service record" or CSR for every phone bill they get that explains in layman's terms what they're being billed for. Since the annual CSR is not an invoice, many businesses simply discard them - don't! Use the annual CSRs to bounce against the service inventory that you create in house to make sure the phone company is correctly billing you for what you think you have.
In theory, the phone services you currently have are the result of some well thought out plan. Who's the originator of that phone plan and where is it now? It's important to understand the original "phone plan" and to constantly be updating it so as to properly plan for inevitable expansion. More money is wasted because often anyone in a business is allowed to order phone services. In every business, only one person should be authorized to order phone services - the keeper of the phone service "expansion plan".
4. Keep a Phone Order Diary - If a phone service is important enough to order, it's important enough to document. Most every phone order is followed up by the phone company with a written confirmation (which you may or may not ever see). Immediately follow up every "MAC" (move, add or change) order with an email to yourself documenting what was ordered, what was the quoted price and all other relevant details. by emailing yourself a note you create a "breadcrumb trail" that you can follow up on later if something goes wrong by simply running a search on your email.
5. Just Say "No" and Hang Up - Many unauthorized phone charges originate with a telemarketer calling into the business. If the telemarketer is able to keep you on the line for any period of time they are going to naturally think you want the service and then contrive some reason to place the order for you. Just say, "No thanks & good luck with your next call." Then hang up.
Getting Refunds
We found that getting refunds is easy but making sure the refunds were actually issued was hard. Some of the companies issued and mailed refund checks within just a few days. Other companies said the refund would show up on our phone bill in "one to two bill cycles".
Keeping a scrupulous diary of conversations and promises is the only way to guarantee refunds will be received. Document the full contact information of everyone you speak with and email them a summary of your conversation and request that they email you back a confirmation that that's what they agreed to do.
When the company representatives know you're keeping good notes on them (documentation for a FCC complaint) your refunds are more likely to be received quickly.
ALWAYS ASK, "So if I don't get what you say I'm going to get by the time you say I'm going to get it, specifically who should I follow up with? What is the name and contact information for your supervisor?"
Why does the local phone company allow other companies to pass charges onto your phone bill? "Third-party billing" is supposedly a great convenience in that you only have to pay one bill instead of separate bills for obvious authorized phone related charges like yellow-page advertising in the "real yellow pages", 411 information calls and long-distance calls from your chosen long distance carrier. Over the years though, some less-than-scrupulous companies have realized that most businesses rarely scrutinize their local phone bills. To take advantage of this, these companies have come up with elaborate schemes to place unauthorized charges on your phone bill that you'll end up paying for without even thinking. Unauthorized charges you can end up paying for include charges for unwanted (and unused) email accounts, web sites, directory information calls, directory advertising in obscure publications, voice mail accounts and other services.
In theory, before these charges can be placed on your phone bill, the company that is originating the third-party billed charges is supposed to have a verification of the order like a voice recording. In reality though, all the company needs to do to initiate the charge is submit your name and phone number to the billing entity. The verifications are only required to be produced if a complaint is filed.
To prevent these charges from appearing on you business phone bill it's helpful to understand the four parties that make unauthorized third party phone charges a costly reality. Party number one is any employee who can answer your business phones. The unauthorized charge is rarely random and it usually happens after one of your company employees gets a telemarketing call. Employees should be instructed to document and report any overly aggressive telemarketing calls they receive. Party number two is the telemarketing company that originates the unauthorized charges by trying to get your employee to accept some service for which you'll be billed through your local phone bill. Party number three is the third-party billing company that has billing agreements with your local phone company. The name of the third-party billing is the one that is prominently displayed on your phone bill. After the third-party billing company's name is the name of the company that is originating the unwanted charges. Party number four is your "Ma Bell" local phone company that collects the unwanted charges (keeps a share for "Ma") and then passes the rest to the third-party billing company (who keeps a big share) and then passes the balance on to the company that initiated the unwanted charge.
Following are some of the top third-party billing names and unauthorized charge originators you'll find on your phone bill. If you see these names on your phone bill you'll want to call the toll free number listed next to the charge to confirm it's a charge that's been properly authorized to be placed on your bill. Following are actual examples that we've recently found while auditing business phone bills.
Important note: Third-party billing companies like the ones listed below simply bill you for the products of others. As such, it's not the third-party billing company that initiated the charge you did not authorize - they simply pass on the charge from the initiating company to your phone bill.
Top 5 Unwanted Charges
1. VOICE MAIL - Enhance Services Billing Inc. (ESBI), VoiceXpress & CoolSavings.com
We found a $12.95 per month charge on a client's local AT&T phone bill for non-AT&T "VoiceXpress" voice mail service. When we called the listed phone number for VoiceXpress of 800-367-8006 we spoke to a VoiceXpress customer service rep who said a specific person "ordered" the voicemail service almost 15 months ago. When I asked that he give me detailed information about what kind of voicemail service was ordered he quickly stated that the voicemail service was ordered through the website www.CoolSavings.com. He stated that when people go to that website to download free grocery coupons that some of the fine print states that they will be charged $12.95 per month for the voicemail. Before I could even begin to take issue with the whole situation he said that I would be refunded all the money - at total of $194.25 on the phone bill within the next bill or so.
I was actually kind of surprised that they were so anxious to refund all our money without a fight until I started Googling ESBI, VoiceXpress & CoolSavings.com. I quickly found that my client was not the first to end up being billed for a service they did not want. Click the following links for more information Complaint Site 1 Complaint Page 2 Complaint Page 3 Complaint Page 4 Complaint Page 5 ESBI Lawsuit ESBI Lawsuit 2
2. DIRECTORY ASSISTANCE - ILD Teleservices, "10 15 15 800", Calling10.com & TelSeven.com
We found ILD billed our client $21.42 for three separate "directory information calls to the phone number 10-15-15-800. Unlike with ESBI above, ILD was a little stingier before finally relenting to a credit. They were quite insistent that an employee did indeed dial 10-15-15-800 for directory assistance at a cost of over $5 per call. I quickly challenged them by asking, "Who in the world even knows to dial 10-15-15-800 for directly information unless they were mislead to do so?". The customer service person I complained to issued a one time $21.42 "courtesy credit" and said a check will be mailed out right away. Surprisingly, the check arrived just a few days later.
Click one of the following links to read Internet posts from others about unauthorized 10-15-15-800 directory assistance calls. Complaint Page 1 Complaint Page 2 Complaint Page 3 Complaint Page 4 Call10 WebSite TelSeven WebSite
Unfortunately, unless you are able to block your phone system from dialing 10-15-15-800 or other 101xxxxx "bypass codes", t hese unauthorized charges can be very difficult to stamp out. While an employee my indeed be tricked into dialing the number as is alleged on some of the web links above, it's likely that an employee is dialing these numbers out of ignorance or malice. Tell them that if they want free directory assistance to dial 800-GOOG-411 or 800-FREE-411.
3. INTERNET DIRECTORY LISTING - OAN Services, Inc., USdirectory.com, & Xacti
We found $49.95 per month being charged for a non-AT&T online yellow page listings at www.USdirectory.com. When we contacted the customer service number for US Directory we were assured that someone at the business did indeed place the order. The business disputes that the charge was authorized. US Directory said a credit of $149.85 for three months of the charges would be issued.
Click the following links to view information about others who feel they did not authorize what was charged or to get additional background information about US Directory. Complaint Page 1 Complaint Page 2 Complaint Page 3 Complaint Page 4 USdirectory.com Xacti Robert Osterlund
The only way to stop this sort of unauthorized billing would be to contact your local phone company and ask them what your options are to block all third-party billing. You may or may not want to pursue this option depending on how many authorized third-party billing vendors you are already paying through your phone bill. Many of these vendors (like the real yellow pages) will only do business with you if you allow them to bill you through your phone bill.
4. DIAL AROUND - USBI & MCI
We found a total of $84.31 billed by USBI on behalf of for MCI long distance calls. When we called the listed customer service number the rep assured me that either the line was PICed to MCI or that someone was using an MCI dial-around code to make the calls. I assured the representative that the line in questions was confirmed to be PICd to Sprint and that no employee needed to dial any long distance bypass code on the line because the line had a working long distance carrier. After a couple minutes the representative granted the "one-time courtesy credit".
Like the "10 15 15 800" directory assistance dial around problem noted above, other than blocking your whole system from being able to connect dial around attempted calls there is not a good way to block these sort of calls.
5. UNAUTHORIZED PHONE LINE - Sprint
We found about $35 worth of long distance charges for a phone number that no one seemed to think belonged to the company. In going back through many back bills it seemed the number had been added to the companies Sprint long distance phone bill over a year and a half ago. We called Sprint to ask them who added the phone number to the account and why. Sprint responded that their records didn't go back that far. We then stated that we wanted to initiate a fraud investigation. Sprint issues a credit of $304.80 for all the billing on the phone line since it was added to the account. They also blocked the phone line from the Sprint network. I called the line in question and it was some residential phone customer who had no relation to my client.
The obvious way to stop this sort or unauthorized phone line problem is to check the list of all phone numbers billing to the account every month to make sure every number is authorized to be billing on the account.
5 Ways to Eliminate & Prevent Unwanted Charges
1. Switch to a Competitive Local Phone Company - Only "Ma Bell", the old local phone company allows other companies to add charges to your phone bill. If you switch your local phone lines to one of the new competitive local phone companies, the only charges that will ever appear on your local phone bill are the charges you have authorized in a signed contract. How refreshing!
2. Have a "Phone Cop" Review Every Bill Every Month - Designate an inside employee or an outside consultant with the responsibility of knowing what phone services you're subscribed to and why. Then have that person scrutinize every phone bill every month to ensure that only contracted prices are being charges to authorized services. Have them report and track all discrepancies. Have them keep detailed records of all promised refunds so it can be confirmed when the refunds have been received. Have them Google the customer service contact phone number of any company that unexpectedly places charges on your phone bill. You may quickly find that the company has many Internet complaints published against it.
3. Have a Phone Service Inventory & Expansion Plan - Every year the local phone company sends their customers a "customer service record" or CSR for every phone bill they get that explains in layman's terms what they're being billed for. Since the annual CSR is not an invoice, many businesses simply discard them - don't! Use the annual CSRs to bounce against the service inventory that you create in house to make sure the phone company is correctly billing you for what you think you have.
In theory, the phone services you currently have are the result of some well thought out plan. Who's the originator of that phone plan and where is it now? It's important to understand the original "phone plan" and to constantly be updating it so as to properly plan for inevitable expansion. More money is wasted because often anyone in a business is allowed to order phone services. In every business, only one person should be authorized to order phone services - the keeper of the phone service "expansion plan".
4. Keep a Phone Order Diary - If a phone service is important enough to order, it's important enough to document. Most every phone order is followed up by the phone company with a written confirmation (which you may or may not ever see). Immediately follow up every "MAC" (move, add or change) order with an email to yourself documenting what was ordered, what was the quoted price and all other relevant details. by emailing yourself a note you create a "breadcrumb trail" that you can follow up on later if something goes wrong by simply running a search on your email.
5. Just Say "No" and Hang Up - Many unauthorized phone charges originate with a telemarketer calling into the business. If the telemarketer is able to keep you on the line for any period of time they are going to naturally think you want the service and then contrive some reason to place the order for you. Just say, "No thanks & good luck with your next call." Then hang up.
Getting Refunds
We found that getting refunds is easy but making sure the refunds were actually issued was hard. Some of the companies issued and mailed refund checks within just a few days. Other companies said the refund would show up on our phone bill in "one to two bill cycles".
Keeping a scrupulous diary of conversations and promises is the only way to guarantee refunds will be received. Document the full contact information of everyone you speak with and email them a summary of your conversation and request that they email you back a confirmation that that's what they agreed to do.
When the company representatives know you're keeping good notes on them (documentation for a FCC complaint) your refunds are more likely to be received quickly.
ALWAYS ASK, "So if I don't get what you say I'm going to get by the time you say I'm going to get it, specifically who should I follow up with? What is the name and contact information for your supervisor?"
Stopping Unauthorized Charges Cramming is a term for unauthorized charges on your phone bill such as a monthly charge for voice mail or any charges for services that you have not requested.
ReplyDeleteInspect your monthly telephone bill to ensure that it correctly reflects the services you have ordered.
If anything looks suspicious, investigate and contact Verizon immediately to resolve cramming issues. Protecting yourself against unauthorized charges Check your phone bill each month for unauthorized charges.
Beware of sales calls. Know what you are authorizing before they agree.
Read the fine print on all contracts, applications, or contest entry forms you sign. Avoid any that seem vague.
Do not accept collect calls from people you do not know and do not return calls to unfamiliar area codes and numbers.
Beware of faxes, email, voice mail, or pages you receive that ask you to call an unfamiliar area code and number.
Pay close attention to voice prompts when you reach a voice messaging system. You may be asked to accept charges for the call or for other services.
Bill Block Bill Block prevents companies from "cramming" or adding services or charges to your bill without your knowledge or permission.
Verizon provides Bill Block for your protection at no charge.
Note Bill Block does not prevent associated toll charges, operator service charges, monthly fees, 900/976 calls, or dial-around charges from your long distance provider.
Contact Verizon to request Bill Block for your account.
If You Were Billed By Your Local or Residential Telephone Carrier For Third Party Services and Subscriptions You Never Authorized Or Ordered, Contact A Class Action Attorney!
ReplyDeleteA team of class action lawyers has launched an investigation into the billing practices of residential landline or wireline telephone carriers a/k/a local exchange carriers or LECs , third party billing aggregators and third party merchants regarding their charging and billing for third party products and services without express authorization of telephone subscribers and customers.
Certain telephone companies, third party billing intermediaries and third party vendors are being investigated for illegally "cramming" unauthorized charges for third party products and services (such as voicemail, Internet access, web hosting, premium information services such as weather, sports, spam protection, credit repair, email service, voice mail or caller-id services “billed on behalf of” third pary vendors, etc.) onto consumers' telephone bills, even though such consumers neither purchased the services nor authorized the charges.
If your local phone company (i.e., AT&T, Verizon, Embarq, Qwest, etc.) allowed a billing aggregator or billing clearinghouse (i.e., ESBI, Enhanced Services Billing, Inc., BSG Billing Services Group, Zero Plus Dialing, ZPDI, USBI, HBS Billing Services, Enabill, Bill2Phone, ILD Telecommunications, ILD Teleservices, Integretel, PaymentOne, The Billing Resource, etc.) to charge you through your local phone bill for products and services offered by third party service providers that you did not authorize or order, contact a class action lawyer.
If you were charged on your residential or local phone bill for third party billing services and subscriptions that you never authorized, you may be entitled to recover money.
AT&T refunds unauthorized charges in Florida
ReplyDeleteFinally, someone is doing something about this. There are thousands upon thousands of ringtones sites on the Internet. Many of them claim to be free. So, naturally, people gravitate towards them, as they want their favorite songs playing when the phone rings. Unfortunately, not many people ask the question: How is this free? If ringtones cost money most places, how do some services end up giving them away? The answer: They sign you up for monthly subscription services which are billed through your cell phone carrier. This way, you’re less apt to notice the charge on your bill, and will continue paying it. The Florida Attorney General has had enough, though. His office and AT&T have agreed to refund all Florida AT&T Mobility customers for any unauthorized charges they may have incurred from this.
“Consumers should never be billed for services they thought were free of charge,” said Attorney General Bill McCollum. “Today’s agreement establishes a precedent for wireless companies accepting responsibility for the charges placed on consumers’ bills and ensuring that content is billed the way it should be – in a fair and fully disclosed manner. AT&T should be commended for being the first wireless company in the industry to offer this reform.”
The most important result of this proceeding is that there will be a greater regulation on how these third parties advertise their services. For instance, instead of just “Free ringtone,” companies would be required to note that the free ringtone is a gift for signing up for a $10 monthly subscription. Clearly, that will cut into their bottom line.
Parents will also be afforded the opportunity to block all third party downloads. The carriers clearly love this, since it means people will be restricted to their brand of content. But while the carriers’ greed may be enhanced by this, let us not forget that it might be the best way to stave off unwanted charges. Surely, there will be companies that do not comply to this AG mandate to disclose all charges. So by blocking all third party transactions, people can ensure that their bill is not wrought with unwanted charges.
The AG’s office has also said that it will look into the other major carriers in Florida — Verizon, Sprint, Alltel, and T-Mobile — to see if the same thing is happening to their customers.